Fb 'artist' Pages - Do They Still Matter?

Supposedly the winning plan nowadays is to work the artist page with groups, an artist page alone won't get you anywhere. Someone else will have chime in with specifics.

i have, its there, can't say how useful it is. to be popular you have to update it like a blog, and i don't.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

I'd post new photos to it, my handful of friends would see them, maybe in time.... who knows. I'm not wondering so much about the marketing effectiveness, but whether FB has changed the rules for 'artist' pages over time so they're no longer worth creating, or don't look good, or get ads stuffed in them - things like that.

I don't know what to do with my Artist FB page - it is not interactive. It does not have a news feed .

I leave it as a business card of what I do , so that the locals can see I have a few shots.

I've just about given up with it but leave it up, as Janine does, for a calling card of sorts. I also run contests on it

I have one. It's pretty much a mirror image of the art stuff I post to my personal page, or the other way around, except lately I've been trying to interject non-art stuff into my personal page. I don't want to look like an advertisement ALL the time.

The thing with the FB artist page / pro page / business page (I'm guessing they're all the same, and are what you're talking about, Jim?) is that I try to be select as to who I allow to be "friends" with me on my personal page. Therefore, if a client whom I don't know from the man-in-the-moon is interested in keeping up with me, the "artist / pro" page is the place to do it.

But it's my opinion that without paying for promoting posts, the legs on the thing are pretty short. I try to counteract that by "sharing" my pro page posts to my personal page ... but then again, all I'm doing on the personal page is preaching to the choir. Well, in most cases.

I feel like a dog chasing her tail sometimes. lol

Ads and more Ads-If I look at something,even more ads.

If we put anything up, it rarely shows. I opted out of growing my list due to the fact that it seems wasteful, by what I see.

Joined a couple groups; never put anything in them because all I saw is a plethora of ads from members of said groups coming to my site.

Some things I share, especially dealing with the lighter sides of life; but political and religious I try to avoid!

Did warn folks to be wary of fake news and fake accounts long before I saw if mentioned there or elsewhere.
Think I lost a few followers as a result.

Time is better suited elsewhere, but even that is enigmatic to me.
Rather spend it in the discussions here; at least I find much more of value( at least entertainment wise) for time spent.

Never-mind...

Tag people in your artwork photos. It will (temporarily) boost your engagement enough for FB to start showing your posts.

My analytics say that for "normal" untagged posts I get shown to fewer than 1 percent of my page fans. sooooooo

Tag people in your art photos? Isn't that a bit of a cheap trick? ;-)

Lois, I think a FB artist page / pro page / business page are all the same thing, but what do I know. Not much at this point.

The idea would be, I post my photos there, not personal stuff; my friends see them in their feed because... well, wishful thinking here, I guess they'd all follow my page. And in the future if someone saw one of my shots and was interested, they could find my 'artist' page and see all the photo posts from the past.

Basically I find raking leaves more interesting than working social media.

if you tag people that are not in your photos - facebook WILL ban you. its against the rules to that. i can tell you that i've seen people do that to me, and i do report those posts, i consider them spam. because it brings people over there, because they think they are in a photo when they aren't.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

Tag yourself if you're worried then.

I tag actual friends who've fallen off the algorithm cliff. I also explain - interact if you want the algorithm to serve my content. Ignore if you don't. It's a very occasional thing because FB keeps resetting their preferences.

No problems.

what would be the point to tag yourself?

the status of a tagged image goes up only because you were able to engage people to look at your image. that's why the ranking is better. tagging yourself doesn't do anything, because you would only count once.

in any case FB looks for patterns that will game the system, and spam and other things, and does ban people, i should know. though for me it was groups.

---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

"Fallen off the algorithm cliff" - I like that. Entered an algorithmic black hole. Vanished from FB space, entered an invisible dimension. Not quite 'untouchables' but.. The Uncounted. Non-Clickers.



Ironic that FB tries to stop people from 'gaming the system'. Because it's their system and they're the only ones allowed to game it. Which is what they do, 24/7.

I got to know a jeweler who did very, very well with a public facebook page (and she is not famous). As far as I know, her entire income comes from facebook ads and a newsletter.

But ... she spends a LOT of money on ads. She spends many hundreds of dollars on just one ad.

So, facebook is certainly an avenue for sales. The question is whether you can cover the cost of the ads and still make a profit. The thing about FAA is that, for most of us, the profit margin is quite small, unless you are selling originals through the site. So a facebook ad for one product is not likely to work all that well. What I have done in the past (minimally) is to put a link on my facebook page to my blog so that I can show a variety of images that I sell on FAA. It does bring in traffic.

Although I use facebook sometimes, I prefer google social media platforms for most things, like blogger and Google Plus. You get the Google traffic that way, and it is free.

Facebook is a corrupt system from top to bottom. From exploiting your personal information, to eavesdropping on you through their app, to tracking you through their site everywhere you go online no matter if you are signed in or not, to accepting ads with hot clickbait titles that lead to malware and ransomware attacks, to using members as guinea pigs in experiments to learn how to manipulate you without you knowing (successfully I might add), to accepting Russian political troll ads paid for in rubles and denying they did it. I don't understand for the life of me why anyone would use their services, it astounds me. They don't care about you as a member nor as a business unless they can convince you to spend money. Facebook has always been all about the money, they have ZERO moral standards. I assume what remains of my pages are still there but I haven't been there myself for close to two years and don't have any intention of going back. Now I have to make a decision about Instagram, also owned by Mark Zuckerberg. I haven't used that for ages either, even though I've not heard about any significant issues after the initial copyright fiasco. I am sure it's coming tho, and because experience tells me I can't trust I'll be made aware of any detrimental changes, I have trouble reconciling using any service under that particular umbrella.

And while I'm at it, here's a reminder not to install ANY always-on listening device in your home. The hacks that are going to result from devices like the Amazon Echo and other IoT devices are going to be horrific, and that's beyond any "legitimate" eavesdropping abilities the powers that be can insist companies build into them. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when and how big it will be.

I will now return to mumbling in the corner wearing a cat-shaped tinfoil hat on my noggin'.

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Susan Maxwell Schmidt
So-so Board Moderator and
Artist Extraordinaire

I just start to get the hang of it... I putting more effort now, always thinking about new ways, trying out new things.

This weekend 82 new people liked my page, 99 this week total, several shares, lots of comments.. This weekend I sold one original watercolor, two prints, one card, and a phone case only because of my weekend activity with my Fb page. ( I know all sales came from there, because I know the buyers, I am communicating with them :) I got also some promises to buy something else before Christmas. Also some new email subscribers, around 8? I dont know exactly.

I am not paying for ads, I tried before, didnt bring me anything. What I did, start Friday afternoon, posted some new paintings, involved a group with 200k members with my new starting collection, and also an art sharing page in my niche (cats) , with whom I am also communicating, so she is sharing to me if I ask kindly. I made Free Giveaway of a little watercolor card, and the shipping of that will cost me 0.85cent. So that is my expense with it.

I start to like it, I get lots of nice feedback, which is great for my soul.

I concluded this weekend, since I neglecting my blogs (which was a suffering and time consuming thing with not too much interaction) and I put more effort in creating new paintings, and to FB and to Instagram, I do better.

http://www.facebook.com/catsofkaravella


Dora Hathazi Mendes
Cats of Karavella Atelier

Dora that has been a great campaign you have been running this weekend, I have been following it on Facebook, really impressive and you deserve the sales for all your hard work.

It's as useful as we choose to make it.

There are no quick returns on anything.

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Michel
https://photos.travelnotes.org/

Thank you Dorothy! :-)

all systems are corrupt, we use them though because they do work.

if you want to look up corrupt, look up google vs amazon. and why my amazon stick will no longer play youtube all because of a feud on both sides. but we still use those places.

i never liked facebook, its confusing, your always messing with security settings because they keep making things public. i can't find just family posts, its mixed with everything else. and its very easy to get banned, they don't give you a good explanation.

but its like being in a room with people - noisy, people bump into you, they may smell bad, etc. facebook is like that, people are there and they may hear your message. and i've gotten sales from it. but its still very tricky to use.

i do agree with the echo and the others. while its nice to say - alexa, drain my wallet, i can do that without telling it to do so. alexa order me something, ok, i'll order you something. i never liked how any voice could make it work, and commercials take advantage of that - alexa record this show, it says on tv. rude. and if people are dumb enough to hook up their security system, all a thief has to do is say - alexa, unlock the house, and boom, stolen alexa unit.

now worse are those amazon break in kits, i mean home delivery systems. where one guy has the key to your house and will unlock your door and set your package inside. a camera turns on so you can see that it was delivered.

but there is a hack, they can loop the camera where it always shows the door closed, and then they can steal everything. when they told amazon about this, they ignored them, didn't fix the problem and said, they trust their drivers... which all btw drive either Uhauls, or unmarked white vans, and they can be anyone, because it doesn't say amazon on the side. that device will lead to all kinds of potential issues. but then again walmart has a similar device, not sure how it works if you also have an amazon lock on there as well.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

I have a Facebook personal page AND a (business) Photography Page (https://www.facebook.com/BillSwartwoutPhotography). Both get updates of all new uploads - and they both help me sell a few pieces. However, I am very careful about personal information that is posted.

I find that being active in "groups" - especially those aligned with some of my gallery themes - is more beneficial. Last evening I posted two edits of the same photograph (of a popular vacation area) and asked "Exact same view - but which style do you like the best? Or, do they both have their place?" I've so far received 71 Likes/Loves and 58 actual comments, including two from local (popular) photographers. I take the time to say "Thank you" to everyone who comments.



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~ Bill Swartwout Photography Blog

its best to wait many hours to say thanks, this way it bumps the message to the top naturally. i keep forgetting to do that and do it right away. but its best to wait a bit. i usually like them right away.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

I find I do get a lot of engagement on my Facebook artists page. I started it 8 or 9 years ago and have built it to over 5000 followers. As others have said, it’s what you make of it.

Facebook is amazing in this humble artists opinion. I just payed $100 to boost a post for the holidays to my target audience....so far I know I can track about $2750 worth of profit directly from that post because they told me that is where they saw me and ordered canvases and prints through me and not through FAA. That $100 bought me the privileged to display my best artwork to about 57,000 people in my target agriculture markets. Now, that is a COMPLETE aberration because of a huge sale.....but it should be noted that the person who bought all those prints was targeted through that ad, and otherwise would have never seen my work. Even without that one person the ad would have payed for itself in direct sales....then if you figure in future sales from new likes and exposure that is a good investment.

As with most things....a little hard work and effort goes a long ways. I have yet to find an advertising channel that allows me to so accurately market to people I want because no other advertising channel knows so much about its users. I am always astounded by how much push back Facebook gets on here because people think that they should be able to put up a few posts of uninspired content and magically get hits and users. The internet doesn't work that way, marketing doesn't work that way, business doesn't work that way. It never has, Facebook is no different. Of course they are going to make business pay to spread their content...that is how advertising works. You can't put up ads in a newspaper or magazine or any other form of media for free, why should FB be different? They are in this to make money y'all, just like we are, users play for free and are the product so of course you are going to have to pay to get good traction on your business. This is not a new idea.

Tin foil hats and opinions of a few be darned....Facebook just eclipsed over 2 BILLION global users. They continue to be the largest most engaged social media network. You can LITERALLY put your artwork in the pocket and palm of the hand of anybody you want for a few dollars along with direct links to where to buy it. How can you all not see how powerful that is?

HOW?

So frustrating to see people turn their nose up at the very tools they can use to build success.

the artist site is more like a business card/blog site. a way to interact with many people, but not really needing to own a webpage.


---Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

I don't think people look at web sites or blogs anymore. They go to a web site to buy stuff, or do their banking, but everything else that matters to them is in FB or maybe other SM sites. What I mean is, it no longer does me any good to have a photography 'web site' because I have no way to promote it and no one would discover it. Maybe if I had a FB artist page, people (starting with my friends) would find it and spread it around. And once in a while they might see a new post from me, and actually look at my 'artist' page and see some more. Wishful thinking, but hey.

Blogs are dead. Nobody looks at them.

BTW can anyone point me to a current, correct 'how to' for creating a FB artist page? I could check FB's online Help but I've usually found it to be pretty bad.

Jim its pretty self explanatory. In the upper right there is a little down arrow, click on that and click "Create Page" and you are off.

Dora I target state by state. For instance, if I am showing a cattle photo and want to boost the post, I boost it to states that have a huge beef industry (Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Colorado, ND, SD, and Montana) In addition, if the photo is of angus cattle, I will narrow to people who might have farming or ranching as an occupation, and angus as an interest. You can also target members of groups like NCBA (national cattlemen's beef association), or the American Angus Association. You can dial it in too far, but finding that happy medium to make sure your art is in front of your target market is where it seems to work for me.

If I am showing corn harvest photo, I focus on states in the corn belt.

Wheat, I dial it up into Canada more, ND, SD, KS, NE, OK and TX where most of the wheat is grown.

It changes for every post, and I can look back on what worked and what didn't.

Thomas, as a former engineer i feel the need to perform tests to verify bang- for- buck. :-) For example: is it possible for me to "tell" FB that I'm interested in corn agriculture, and photography, and see if they start feeding me your work?

I don't target Minnesota often and I only boost my best posts, so this time of year not much, maybe once or twice a month, but if you change your occupation to farmer, and you like the official John Deere page among other ag things, I would be willing to bet you would see one of my posts pop up eventually.

Ok will do so. My in-laws are farmers. They'll love it.

Dora and Thomas,

Thanks for some great information and inspiration.

My new Magazine's fan page....

https://www.facebook.com/EauRue/

Dave

Thank you Thomas!

You are welcome David!

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Did you notice, that there is a new Feature, you can add a Story to your page, in the left corner just under you state you are an artist, or photographer etc? You can edit like a note, or a page, to add images, links etc, write a correct, nice bio there, or about section with your links, so it will appear a photo under that your are an artist, to a clickable page. I think is cool!

My problem is, that I tried to edit it today, and when I saved then published it, came an error, that upps they have some problem. Now I try to go back to finish editing my Story, but it is just thinking, and dont let me to get in. Now I am freaked out, I edited for an hour, and I just saved it on the facebook, but not in a word (it was a mistake i think)
Do you experience the same thing? I am wondering if it is only me, or it is everybody...

I've got 4 pages and about 4 groups

Diet
Deep chat (that no-one talks in so am going to make it public as people, like here, seem to prefer an audience)
Others

My art page is pretty new as I re-invented myself as YoursByShores only recently. It's sluggish
My magazine page also is new but doing ok and getting people onboard
My science page is plodding
My two dogs page is doing great

It's been interesting.

I've found that doing just one subject is slow, especially if just promoting me. But I offer a lot on the magazine page and that's getting interest.

To paraphrase the great Oscar Wilde - the only thing WORSE than being tracked online - is NOT being tracked online!!!

I have uncharacteristically taken the active step of creating a photography page. Before announcing to the world (and being trampled by excited visitors) I'd like to give it some content by posting some of my best photos of the past. So I start posting them one-by-one. Does that make sense or will it just create confusion somehow? Is there a better way to give a new page some initial content?

I guess I thought there'd be more of a 'gallery' look to the page but there doesn't seem to be any place for 'albums', or groups of photos, etc.

Yup....

Mine works well for me. I have a following, I get comments from folks saying they look forward to seeing new images...which I post almost daily.
I often get queries "Do you have a photo of...." or "I saw a photo you posted not long ago but cannot find....".

Said it before and will say it again... depends on who your target audience is and do you have something to offer which will keep them coming back?
Doing this part time (I'm a caregiver) with little advertising aside from FB promotions, word of mouth and local market sales, I do quite well. So we'll, I had to resurrect my old gat number and start charging tax this year.

Now...does my FAA sales reflec the above? Nope.....it's simply one of many tools I use, hence I don't put all my eggs in one basket. Tools can include different software to help me achieve the final look of a given image, where I show my work(s) both online, or on the wall in my studio/gallery, at a local market, or other brick and mortar shop.

What might work for one doesn't mean it'll work for another. Again, it's a matter of what market your after and how you present your works. Does this mean having a business plan? If you're looking to do this full time and make a living at it.... probably. But one thing I've discovered..... nothing sells better than having and actual product on the wall for folks to see and appreciate...especially when comparing framed prints vs canvas vs metal or brushed aluminum prints.

Posting to my FB artist page allows me to have control over who I want to have access to my personal stuff as well.

Cheers everyone!

~Michel
https://www.facebook.com/msoucy

Jim, talk on it also, do not just add images.

Oh I'll be posting all sorts of clever and fascinating stuff. I just want something there to start.

While I have a FB artist page, it has under 200 followers. My personal page has 5 or 6 times more friends and followers and where I get the most interaction with potential buyers. I hate almost everything about Facebook/Social Media except the fact they are the most powerful tool in my arsenal when it comes my images being seen/shared and where to buy them. I have yet to pay for "boosting" an image but based on what Thomas posted, it was well worth the small investment. There are some do's/don't's to learn on FB as well as dealing with unsolicited critiques from people who are experts on virtually everything. Like Thomas, I know it works for me but it's not a guarantee it will work for you. Using social media can be both rewarding and maddening at times.....kind of like raising children ;)

Jim you can create photo albums like on your personal account to organize your images

@Dora, yes I see that now that I'm poking around in the page settings. It all seems very limited and crude; your can't really create much of a page. But that's FB, today.

I've been looking at your page to see what I can do.

Jim, think of it this way. A facebook page is NOT like a website, where you want people to come see you on YOUR page. They can of course click on your page and view albums and descriptions and things from the past, but the power of Facebook is in the news feed. When you post something, it will show in some of the people who like your page's news feed. The idea is they want to see those posts, and they can see them without ever coming to your page, because it shows in their feed. Your job is to create posts people want to see in their news feed.

A few notes and thoughts as you get started. Invite your personal FB friends to like your page, and encourage them to like and comment on your posts when they see them. Know from the get go that when you post something, Facebook is only going to show it to 5-15% of your followers. If those followers don't like, comment, or interact with the post, the post will then die and nobody else will see it. This is the main problem most people have with facebook as they think it should show to everyone for free. It can, but only if its a post that a lot of people engage with. Facebook wants to show content that people like and want to engage with. This is why QUALITY matters when it comes to the people who like your page.....and why I don't spam my page on these forums or other forums asking for likes to get my number up. I only want people who love my work and may want to purchase it on my page, it makes the free marketing so much more effective. Don;t be afraid to ask questions that engender a response in your post, I ask for shares and comments too, and thank people for supporting the page. It works.....a post I ask a question of will get comments, and automatically be shown to a BUNCH more people.

Also of note, a post without a photo or a video is lame. Going live shows the content to a high percentage of your followers. Posting to groups and getting a link in to your page is a great way to get followers. This is a marathon, not a sprint. Steady daily posting is what it takes for success.

Thomas, thanks, I think I get it now. It's really just a way to separate your 'business' posts from your personal posts, and route them to 2 different - but overlapping - lists of friends or 'followers'. The page itself is basically zilch, just that same pathetic little vertical column of posts. It's more like a mailing list, plus an archive of the old emails that anyone can look at.

At least with an 'artist' page there's a way for friends or interested people to see photos I've posted in the past, without having to wade through all my personal posts. Worth something, maybe...

I'm just now learning about the pay-to-play thing, where you pay FB to 'boost' or push your post. Confusing as heck, initially. If I got to the point of understanding it, and it's cheap, I might actually do it. I have quite a number of images that could be sensibly 'targeted' if FB has the capability to identify people with those interests.

Best advice so far - Abbie " Talk on it ".
I guess I haven't know what to do with mine. Talking about the image, area, experience makes sense.
I am not comfortable maintaining an audience.

Thomas is very right, only I read somewhere only 2% sees your posts from your page likers or followers. I dont know what is the difference though ...
And to comment and share is really important, I think if somebody just like your page itself, but dont push a like on an image, or comment on a post, not going to appear anymore to them, because FB think they are in fact not interested.

I notice if somebody once comment, they start to come back to comment again and again, because I believe from then they can see really the page posts in their feed. And they became the core of the active members.

So your page will rank higher if you have less but ACTIVE page likers, followers, than more likers, but not activity.
I am sure of this, because my page is a second hand page. My husband created it with a fictive account, for a different reason. We have a local apartment just some meter from the beach, and we thought to give to rent to artists, without renovating it, so wouldnt be a problem some paint splash here and there. So he befriended 5000 artists from everywhere to invite them to like the page. He could do 1300 page likes this way, but the page was dead, because he kind of didn't do anything else, just put up some photos about the place and the village activity.

I took over his page, because I think when people see big numbers (likes on the page) they join more easily, they already give some trust if already lots of people liked it.

I made a big clean up, I gave new url, new title, new descriptions etc, new albums, and started my activity from a very low ranked page with broken link, and with 1300 unactive followers.

The next 1300 likes I made by myself, organically, they came really for my art, and actions, and they are more and more active, well at least those 2 percent of it lol... My aim is to get 3k till the end of the year, and at least double it end of next year, but with quality, targeted followers :-) Then I will feel more comfy...

I think people say they hate FB and it is for nothing, when they have a dead page, and it feels, you are talking to the wall. When is start to be active, they start to love it, because they realize how powerful free tool is that.

I dont have problem with politics and such on the main feed, because I rarely check the main feed, I am checking my page, my profile and groups, maximum some other pages to search for good ideas...

http://www.facebook.com/catsofkaravella

Dora Hathazi Mendes
Cats of Karavella Atelier

@Dora - now I need some subtle, non-abrasive way to encourage my 'friends' to follow the page and share posts. Hmmm,

Looking at your page, and others, I see some people post new works using the FAA link, so clicking on the image takes you to the FAA purchase page. And some (@Thomas Zimmerma n) don't do that, so it isn't as obvious how to buy one. I see that a major problem with the FAA linked image is that it gets severely cropped. For me, that's a non-starter. Really wish that didn't happen.

Looks like a "buy" tab is an alternative. Some people embed the FAA "shopping cart" but that doesn't seem very useful to me, if it's just a random-order display of my 500+ images. No one's going to hunt through that to find the one they were just looking at in my post.

Another alternative is to post the image myself at correct size, and include a text link in the post, to the FAA image page. That's what I've started doing. I really, really don't want to look like I'm trying to sell photos. Even though I am. :-(

Late to the party as usual!

What Janine said - I don't know what to do with my artist page. It looks so uninspiring and you have no control over how it looks. Also I've been wondering for a while - when people land on your timeline or wall or whatever, how do they know about your artist page, or how to get to it?

I've been concentrating my efforts on Pinterest and neglecting FB. It is so annoying and confusing. I belong to a few groups (about 8) but haven't posted to any of them for a while, but when I do go to my groups, I always make a habit of genuinely commenting on work I really like, rather than just saying 'gorgeous' or 'beautiful' or 'lovely' or whatever. Trouble is, that is time consuming even with just a few groups.

How on earth does anyone keep tabs on hundreds (?) of groups?

I use a FB business page as part of my strategy to market. Its one of many things I do to get my work out there and to get sales. I do not purchase ads, the customers and viewers come through word of mouth opportunities. I also use it to tests market different things as well as a place to share items I have on FAA and other places. I spend typically 30 minutes adding my newest photo, a product I make or to answers messages from viewers. Its a free site if you are not paying for promotion ads. I don't have a large following there....but I have made sales strictly off the page and have made sales directing them to my FAA page.

Just another tool in the marketing tool kit. Just my two cents.

Jim, I dont know if it is good or not, but I post both type, but not in the same time, but lets say one day later. But I have paintings, so I post first directly from AW, it will be ugly cut the image, but if they are curious the rest of the painting, they need to click on it and visit my site. I hate that cut, but in this sense I think help. If the whole image would be there, they wouldn't need to click.

Then a day later, I post to my album lets say an image about the painting on my table, and I put a link in the description.
The posts which I plan to share to the groups, and I know cannot have link because they block it, I dont put any link on it. But still I share from my page. So if they are curious, they click and arrive to my page which is with full of links.

On my page I try to put everywhere links, in fact is the only place where I am not penalised for links, except on posts to the groups.

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Nareeta. On your profle you can set that :
manages "your page" or
works at "your page"
You can have both, so manages is for your page, or pages, and the works at is your workplace if you want.

I dont remember exactly how, but the manages thing I think you have to set it on your page somewhere.

It will be in your bio., under your head (on laptop) Also your websites or social links, you can put there.
Also if you share things from your page to your profile, if somebody visit your profile, they can see your shares from the page. If they click, they go there.
Normally I never post art directly to my profile, but always share from my page.
This way they will know you have a page.

I have sold a T-Shirt recently through sharing an image of one of my T-Shirt images on a non personal FB wall because it was relevant to the conversations going on there.....didn't expect to sell it but within 24hrs I had.....so one never knows where the proverbial 'fish' might bite!